Episode 58: Bear Pascoe

October 22, 2025

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Guest: Bear Pascoe

Bear Pascoe, aged 38, hails from Porterville, California, where he grew up immersed in a western lifestyle surrounded by cattle and horses. Throughout his youth, Bear was actively involved in football, basketball, and competitive team roping, showcasing his passion for sports involving livestock.

Despite receiving numerous athletic scholarship offers from major colleges across the western United States, Bear opted to attend Fresno State. There, he excelled both academically, earning a degree in agriculture education, and athletically, becoming a two-time All-Conference Selection in football while maintaining a strong connection to his western heritage.

In the 2009 NFL draft, Bear was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers, but he made his mark during his six seasons with the New York Giants. Notably, he played a pivotal role in Super Bowl 46, catching four passes that contributed to the Giants' victory over the New England Patriots.

Beyond his football career, Bear distinguished himself as a dual-sport professional athlete. He spent seven seasons in the NFL from 2009 to 2016 before transitioning to professional rodeo. Beginning in 2017, he competed as a steer wrestler in the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association (PRCA), continuing until 2023.

Bear's personal life is intertwined with rodeo; he is married to Katie Jones, a skilled barrel racer and daughter of World Champion Steer Wrestler, John W. Jones Jr. They reside in Morro Bay, California, where they pursue various professional and entrepreneurial endeavors together.

Episode Transcript

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Hello, and welcome back to another inspiring episode of the Achieving Unity Success Formula.

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weekly podcast.

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Where we help turn chaos

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Interconnection, and purpose into action. I am your host, Mark Entrakin,

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Founder of the Achieving Unity Success Formula,

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Also known as the Unity Success Formula, www.unitiesuccessFormula.com,

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Which is dedicated to improving lives by encouraging

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Inspiring and including others.

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Today, I am honored

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To introduce a truly remarkable guest, Bear Pesco.

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He's a world champion athlete.

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a coach and Super Bowl champion.

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From his humble beginnings on a cattle ranch.

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In Porterville, California.

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to hoisting the Lombardi Trophy with the New York Giants.

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Bear's story is one of faith?

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family and unshakable perseverance.

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He embodies the Spirit.

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of Country Strong.

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Proving that with hard work,

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Integrity. And teamwork, that unity.

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Anything is possible.

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Whether it's on the football field, in the rodeo arena, or coaching athletes to reach their full potential.

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Bear shows us what it means to live with purpose,

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live with passion, and live with grit.

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A man who not only trains champions,

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But teaches all of us how to live like one.

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However, before we delve into this insightful discussion, let me briefly introduce my company.

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This is Achieving Unity Success Formula Weekly Podcast Number 58.

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We just passed our year about 6 weeks ago.

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We have a tremendous guest today.

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And then next week, we have Dr. Sherry Rosenthal.

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She'll talk to us about Retreat Strategist.

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You ever been to a retreat? Have you ever held a retreat?

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Working both ways, how a retreat can help.

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When we go to retreats, we learn more.

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We're around others. We build with them that unity.

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that together us help us work.

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That's on October 29th, next week.

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The following week, Edward Marino.

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Looking in the mirror.

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Organizationally,

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And personally, where do we need to look? We want to look at ourselves.

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First. Then, Ronald Stein.

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Energy literacy.

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We hear all this about saving energy.

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Here are all the things about renewable energy.

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What's behind all that, and is it truly working?

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Let's talk about that a little bit. Come talk to us on November 12th.

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They'll be here to share more about energy and the energy literacy.

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November 19th. Deb? Feminole.

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Building lists through relationships.

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Who are your friends?

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Who are your coworkers? Who are the people that you need to contact and work with the most?

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Debbie will come and talk to us about that on November 19th.

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Come join us. Let's build our list. Let's build our friendships.

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Let's find out who's important.

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Then, November 26,

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coming up around Thanksgiving. Lori Sheridan.

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Heal, rebuild.

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resolve. Again, heal.

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Rebuild, resolve.

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Create the life you deserve.

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after toxic relationships.

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Labs have been through them. Toxic relationships can be challenging.

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But Leroy will be here to help us understand how to heal,

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rebuild, and resolve.

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Hope to see you there, too.

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Today, I am honored, because we have

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Bear Pasco, who is a world champion athlete,

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Coach, speaker, whose journey from a small-town cattle ranch in Porterville, California,

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to the Super Bowl stage as a story of faith,

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grit, and determination.

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Something that he says that I cherish, and we'll go into that more in a minute.

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But there is nothing more caring

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or masculine, then parenting your child or your children.

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As a member of the New York Giants, Bear helped defeat Tom Brady.

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And the New England Patriots in Super Bowl.

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So, 46.

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Achieving his dream of becoming an NFL champion.

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After football, he returned to his Western roots as a champion steer wrestler.

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And a team roper.

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Carrying the same dedication and heart that defined his athletic career.

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Today, Bayer inspires others.

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From athletes to business leaders.

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To embrace resilience.

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Work hard, and reach Super Bowl-level success.

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in all parts of his life.

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The bottom right under his picture, you'll see his website.

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That's the URL, www.bearpasco.com.

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dot com. Please help me welcome.

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Bear Pesco.

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I'm doing great, Mayor. Thank you so much for being here. It's great seeing you.

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Hey, Mark, how are you today?

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You too, Sarah. Yeah, I feel like I've… I've been missing you guys on the Speak Live, uh.

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websites on Wednesday, been busy. Uh, got a lot going right now, and a lot of irons in the fire, but man, it's been great.

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I appreciate all that you do, and the things that you do bear, reaching out to others. It's…

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Yeah.

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Excellent, and as I mentioned, it's great having you on the show.

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I'm excited today that we're talking.

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was someone, as we mentioned earlier,

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who has lived the dream for many people.

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And you've worked from…

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Theoretically, the dirt from being a rancher.

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So, before we begin our journey in talking today,

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Maybe give us a minute, and…

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Mm-hmm.

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I'll introduce yourself, help us understand what motivates you beyond all those

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great trophies that you have earned and won, and the titles that you have.

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Can you tell us a little bit about Bear?

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Ah, sure thing. Uh, so, like you said in the intro, born and raised in Porterville, California.

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My dad was a foreman on a family ranch, uh… That was not our family, he was just… he was just… he was working for a family.

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And we were there from the time I was in kindergarten through my freshman year of high school.

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Wow.

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And, uh, yeah. And in that time, I, uh, I developed this love for football, and it mainly came from my father, you know?

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I tell this story in my speeches that I give about, you know, being a typical little kid and rummaging through your dad's old stuff, and I found these old letters.

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Wow.

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from the LA Rams, the Oakland Raiders, the Dallas Cowboys, and they were all recruitment letters of him when he was getting ready to leave Colorado State, yeah.

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And that was when I found out that my dad had the opportunity to play in the NFL, and… chose to come home.

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And, you know, he… During that time, he was playing college ball, he was also dating my mom.

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At the time, and… and so, uh, he came home and started a family and became a cowboy, and… I mean, he had always been a cowboy, but yeah, started ranching and stuff, and so… Uh, when I found that out, that was one of the things that really drove me to go and, you know, succeed and really.

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do everything I could in the athletic world. And it was the driving force, you know, behind me going and playing in the NFL, because I wanted to honor him, you know, and not in a way that.

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Wow.

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No, no, no.

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you know, not in the way, like, some people might look at it and be like, oh, you wanted to show your dad up or something, and it's nothing like that. Like, no, he… He was such a big factor in my career from the time I was in high school, grade school, high school, college, like…

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That's exciting.

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Man, my family was amazing support system for me, so… Uh, yeah.

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But yeah, that's kinda… you know, grew up on a cattle ranch, learning life lessons of how to work hard, and, you know, the value of a dollar.

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in, uh, doing a job right the first time, and… Uh, those were the kind of things that… allowed me to move into the athletic world and be successful and have that, you know, that work…

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work ethic that, you know, helped me succeed. Yeah.

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Congratulations, that is excellent. And watching and seeing what you're doing, it just…

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it rings out so strong, and as I mentioned before,

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You talk about, there's nothing more masculine.

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And being a parent to your child.

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I love that. I'm a former president of the Father's Secret Rights in Denver, Colorado.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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former coordinator for the Children's Rights Council of Colorado.

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Very cool.

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I went through a divorce that was very…

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challenging. I work with a lot of people, even today.

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I've been through some of that, and understanding that

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Being a parent is very important, right?

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm. Oh, extremely, extremely, and uh… You know, I kind of became a parent later in life, I guess you'd say. I mean, I'm… almost 40, 39 years old, and my… Son, he's a little over a year now. And…

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seeing him grow in… you know, learn new things, and seeing him realize.

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you know, he… how he's developing, and that, you know, learning how to play with different toys, and… walk and all that, and it's just… man, it's… just listening to him laugh, it just… it brightens your day, and, like, I wanna…

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It makes you want to be a better man, and… and… be the type of dad that I had, who was there with me every step of the way, and taught me.

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And, you know, mentored me, and… And, you know, supported me throughout my whole life, and… And I know that… I know he's gonna stumble at times, and he's gonna make me mad, but it's like…

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He's my mini-me, and I'm just… I can't wait for what life holds for him, and to be a part of it.

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I'm so excited for you, that is so true, because…

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so many…

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Yeah.

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things that we don't learn, including myself, my culture growing up,

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was not. My dad was a great dad. He was always there for me.

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He taught me things, and of course, at the time I grew up,

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Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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working on a car was a big thing.

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Something as simple as changing oil, changing the brake plugs, and…

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Right?

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Of course, it went on to transmissions and other things, and…

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I have two brothers, also, that

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do a lot of work from carburetors and everything, but

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He was there to teach me what was important at the time.

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As well as just the things about logic.

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Mm-hmm. Right.

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And to have both parents…

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But for many people, the father doesn't know what to do. The Father doesn't…

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Sometimes understand their position and their value.

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And for you to be able to say things like that,

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Mm-hmm.

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Again, you rode in the rodeo, you've got awards, NFL…

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You stand up so much.

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For dads, and for fathers, and I thank you for that.

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Oh, thank you, I appreciate it. And you know, yeah, I've… I've been very blessed, you know, the good Lord, you know, He gave me the strength and the power and the.

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the will to go and chase my dreams, and… You know, at the end of the day.

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you know, Zane, my son, he's gonna be my greatest achievement. Like, you know.

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Yeah.

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not a Super Bowl ring, not a buckle, or… or anything like that, he will be. You know, he's… he will be the legacy, and he… And I… I want to do everything I can to help him be…

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you know, the best man he can be. Yeah.

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what best man he can be, what he wants to be, absolutely, and…

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He may play baseball, he may…

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Be an engineer. Who knows, but being that…

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Yep. Yeah, right?

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being… you say Zane is his name?

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Same, yeah, just being zane, yeah.

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That's the best part of it, so…

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Zane Wheeler, yeah. Zane Wheeler. Yeah. Yeah. No, I… Yeah, and I'm… I mean, I'm taking him with me everywhere I go, as much as possible, you know, and like you've seen him on the Speaker Speak Live chats, and…

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Nice.

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And he goes to football practice with me, because I help coach at the local high school, and, like, today I'm here at Cal Puck.

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Oh, great.

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Yeah, I'm… today I'm at Cal Poly Rodeo, uh, team working with the rodeo team, and, like, he'll come with me on days like today, and I'm… We're out there working the shoots and talking to the athletes, and he's sitting in my arms, you know, and he's…

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He's talking with them, too, you know? So, it's… man, just… it's taken him and exposing him to everything I can, and… been allowing him to… be the best little guy, you know?

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He's learning all that time. Everywhere you take him, right?

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learning, picking things up…

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Right, yeah.

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all of it's not great, but most of it is.

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Learning how to work with others, and…

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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To be himself, learning who he is. That's tremendous.

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Yeah, very much so. Very much so. It's been fun to see.

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Well, tell them.

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I'll bet it is, if it's our pride, it comes with that, so…

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Well, growing up for yourself,

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On that cattle ranch in Puertoville, and…

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Yeah.

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It's only a couple of hours, maybe 3 hours away from LA, but…

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That's still pretty far from an NFL stadium.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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Do you think those early retch days that you had?

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Was there some things that maybe helped shape your mindset about

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your work, your discipline?

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And your success?

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Oh yeah, very much so. Very much so. You know, there was… At a young age, there was… a lot of mornings and, you know, where we're… getting up before the sun was up, you know, saddling horses and a horseback gathering and getting ready to bring calves, and…

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you know, putting them up well after the sun went down, and… You know, and there's a pride that you take when.

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you know, you've put in a long, hard day, and… of hard work, and… you can see the success that you've had throughout the day, and that you've… you've produced something, you know, valuable.

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And something that… you know, is gonna go on and support maybe somebody else's family, you know, in some sort of way, and… there's a lot of pride that goes on in that.

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And… you know, I had… there was a lot of days like that growing up on a ranch, and… you know, uh, the value of hard work.

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You know, I think that's the biggest thing I talk about when I talk to these young athletes, is you have to have a work ethic.

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You know, it's… it's not gonna come easy. You know, especially in the athlete world, and… the way it is today, you know, uh, everybody has a highlight reel.

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You've got to be able to put in the extra time that, you know, the people that are… might be a little bit more talented than you.

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you've got to put in that extra work on the field.

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And one thing I tell them is, hard work will beat talent when talent does not want to work hard.

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Oh.

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So, there's a… yeah, there's a lot of times where I wasn't the most talented guy on the field, uh, but I was willing to… to stay the extra reps, and show up a little bit early.

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And watch the extra film, and… You know, time in the playbook. So… And whatever… whatever the… the… the modality or the… whatever genre you're in, whether it's acting, you know, reading, drawing, being an artist.

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You gotta be able to… you gotta be willing to put in the time.

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You've got to be able to put it…

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Gotta put it… Yeah.

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put in the work that I see you've done,

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Over and over, trying to interrupt you, but I appreciate what you've done, and…

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No.

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And helping the young athletes, the young business people.

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The young… younger bish people, they're in their business.

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It's… everything we do.

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I don't think it's just athletics.

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Everything we do, we have to give that little bit of extra, right?

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Mm-hmm. No. Yeah, very much so. Very much so.

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Sometimes we say, like you're saying, sometimes there might be somebody that might be a little bit better in some way, but…

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Yeah.

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You can put that effort out. It's the same way in… in business.

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Socially, there's somebody that might be just a little bit smarter, they may know something that you don't know.

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But that doesn't mean that you can't go out there and learn.

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learn a little bit more, and as you did,

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put out that extra effort.

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Right. Yeah. Uh, very much. And I mean, there's gonna be times you, you fail.

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You know? But you gotta be okay with that.

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Yeah, because that's where we learn. Like, you're just… You know, it's only a failure if you don't learn something from the process.

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There you go.

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Can you say that again?

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That's…

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You know, and that's… Well, that's something I talk about, you know, it's… It's only a failure if you don't learn something from the process.

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You know, if I'm… if I'm out on the football field, and I'm… trying to reach, you know, a Hall of… future Hall of Fame defense event.

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And, you know, he's gonna win reps. He's gonna win reps, I'm gonna win reps.

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But I'm gonna learn every… all the reps that I lose, I'm learning something new.

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I'm learning something new that's going to help me succeed.

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That's…

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And eventually, I'm gonna succeed. All right? But if I wasn't, if I wasn't learning, if I wasn't, you know, being focused in in the moment, and… Learning how he's placing his hands, or what foot is back in his stance, so I know which direction he's gonna step. If I wasn't learning those little aspects or those little details.

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then yeah, it was a… it was a failure.

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But, you know what? Hey, go ahead, sorry, I keep interrupting you.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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No, no, no, I was just… that's… I love what you're talking about. Bear, please continue, because what I was hearing you say right there…

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was even, like, being a tight end.

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You're playing with different players each game, and there's substitutions,

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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You've also got to learn that player you're playing against.

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learn their traits, right?

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Yes. Mm-hmm, very much so. Very much so. You gotta watch film on them. You gotta… you gotta take those little notes, and… and uh… look at the little… the little aspects of their game.

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and be able to be willing to take that from the film room.

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you know, to the field. And… You know, like you said, like I said, just a second ago, like, they're athletes, too. They're gonna win.

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But you gotta keep getting up. you know, in coming back for the next rep, from the next rep.

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And you're… you're learning every time. Learning every time. So… Those… those amount of losses that you take.

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they're gonna get shorter and shorter. And… and less and less, so… till you're… you're winning every rep.

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That's right.

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Yeah, that's beautiful. Learning that, because as you're mentioning,

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So, yeah.

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You're gonna win, you're gonna lose, you're just gonna win more in the end.

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And by learning from your mistakes, and we all make them, nobody's made more than I have, is what I always tell people.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. Yes.

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We just have to keep learning from the mistakes that we lost, that when we have made those mistakes,

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As you mentioned, we have to learn from them.

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Very much. Mm-hmm.

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And… can you recall in your life, as you're, like, growing up on the ranch, and…

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Your experiences from those days?

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Were there some that continue to shape your approach?

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to the challenge and the perseverance that you express or use today?

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Um, there's a kind of a little story that I tell.

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You know, I was… Helping, uh… we were digging ditches, you know, irrigation ditches and stuff, and… I was working with an old man, and… Uh, you know, he'd… he'd dig a little bit, he'd stop and roll a…

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cigarette, and smoke it, and then dig a little bit, and stop and roll another cigarette, and smoke it.

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Yep.

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And I'm just like… I don't want to say I was, like, 10 or 12 at the time, and… Man, I'm just, like, just… going in a blowin', and sorry to cuss, but I was just asshole in elbows. I was just trying to get it done, it was hot, and trying to go.

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But his job was so… like, the job he was doing was neat and smooth and everything looked the same, where mine was… choppy and up and down and side to side, and my dad shows up, shows back up, and he's like, what are you doing? And I said, I'm trying to get the job done. Like, you know, get…

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So we can go home and… or, you know, at the time you're a little kid, all you're thinking about is lunch, you know?

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Uh, but this old man just was smooth, and just as… you know, precise as can be, and my dad told me, he's like, now… he goes, I'm gonna be here with you, but you and I gotta go back and redo that ditch.

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Because that water's not gonna flow. smoothly. Elmer's gonna get to go and have lunch, but you and I are gonna go back and do this ditch, and we're gonna do it right.

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Great learning experience.

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You know, so it's… learning experience, and it's… It's kind of that stuff that I took to the football field of… taken the coaching in the class, being able to take the coaching in the classroom.

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And then take it to the field. you know, being able to do… the technique and the job and do it the right way the first time.

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And, you know, and… Like I said, like, the guy across from me is an athlete, too.

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Right? So there's times you're gonna lose. But you keep getting up, you keep moving forward.

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learn.

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in, you know, you're gonna get coached on every rep. Yep, you're gonna learn.

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Oh, that's excellent.

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Yes, exactly.

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Well, and you mentioned you're digging ditches. I did that. I was a water cotton back when I was 13, 14 years old. Followed my driver's license.

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On the old cotton fields, but…

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Yeah. Yeah.

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for a lot of us,

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We all start somewhere.

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Do you have a specific moment, or maybe some moments that…

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When you use the theoretical country kid, and…

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Way back that you realize that

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Making it to the NFL might actually be possible, that you saw that

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There was a light at the end of the tunnel?

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Wow.

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From day one. Day one. It's… again, it's something I talk about in all my speeches, is it's all about your Plan A.

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You know, from the time I was… from the time I found those letters in my dad's.

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I was like, that's what I want to do. I want to play in the NFL.

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And so, playing flag football in junior high. to high school ball, to college, you know.

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that was my single… the singular focus I had was going to the NFL.

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And there was times, especially in my early years, you know, as far as, you know.

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8th grade and freshman, sophomore, through the high school years.

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You know, whether it was, uh, teachers or, you know, friends of family, well, what's your plan B?

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I don't have a plan B. This is a make-or-break deal. Like, I'm gonna either go and do it, or I'm not.

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And if they're not, all I'm doing is coming back to the ranch and cowboying and doing that, which I grew up and I love doing, so it wasn't like looking at it as a Plan B.

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But the NFL was my singular focus. That was my light at the end of the tunnel. That was my end goal. That was my… my target and my scope.

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And… I… I mean, like I said, from day one, that was where I just knew.

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That's what I was put on this world… to go do, and… I knew I was gonna do it.

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That's excellent, because one of the things that I think about, and I think some of what you're doing, I want to work with more and more of the young kids that

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may not have the parents that we had, and…

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May not be receiving any…

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positive support.

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In their process, and everything…

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As we see too often today, somebody walks into a room,

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Yeah.

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they're gonna find something wrong. They're gonna just… there's just something…

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And their insecurity, possibly immaturity, that comes out, maybe childishness?

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just… they're not mature in themselves, and they're gonna find something wrong.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, helping our teenagers and our young adults today to see that

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Even though someone else…

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Maybe…

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burning their bridge, we don't do that. That's not what we need to do, but there is

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an opportunity. You in the NFL may be on speaking, and…

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Mm-hmm.

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The program management that I do, it's something that I enjoy,

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But there's something out there for all of us if we keep digging, you know, think like you're saying,

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keep working to what that dream might be.

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Right?

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Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, very much so. And, you know, it's like… kind of the old saying, you know, you never know who you're gonna see on the way back down.

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So, you never want to burn a bridge. on your way up, and… you know, you're working, you're putting in the times, but you never want to step on somebody's shoulders, or, you know, be disrespectful.

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you know, burner bridge, because once you get to the top.

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where else is there to go? I mean, you gotta stay there, you gotta keep working hard, but if you're not willing to do that, you're gonna roll right back down that hill.

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And you're going to come right across those same people again, you know?

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And I like telling the kids I work with is, listen, life's a team sport.

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Life is a team sport, and you've got to build a strong team.

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So, whether it's… Your immediate family?

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or your coaches, your teachers, your counselors. Whatever it may be, you know, any of those people.

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You may not agree with them up first, up front, but…

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You gotta find those… yep. Exactly. You might not agree with them.

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Alright, and they might not tell you exactly what you want to hear, but they're going to tell you what you need to hear.

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So true.

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Alright? Those are the people, those are the people that are truly in your corner.

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And they're gonna be there… you know, when the net… the… the showboaters and the naysayers are not.

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That's right.

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And…

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You know, it's like when… yeah. So, you gotta build that strong team early on.

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And keep it. Keep in touch.

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keep. Mm-hmm.

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do the… as you're saying, be strong with everyone, even if they… we don't agree.

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We can still be strong together.

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And from what I've been reading about you, that…

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Yeah. Mm-hmm.

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Your faith, your family, your excellent.

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They all seem to be at the heart

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of everything you do, the faith, the family, the excellence.

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How can those three values

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connect, especially during seasons or times,

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of struggle, or uncertainty.

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it's kind of what you stand on, you know, or I'm metaphorically what you stand on when you are in those times of struggles. I mean, right off.

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Um, when I got to the NFL, my rookie year, you know, California kid, grew up playing college bowl in California, get drafted by the 49ers, think it's gonna be… meant to be, and it wasn't. It wasn't meant to be. Had struggles, and…

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Next thing I know, I'm jobless. Just like that. And… my faith… my family, and the… the… pursuit of my end goal.

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Uh, were the things that really… uh, supporting me during that time.

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And, um… it was just, you know… leaning on those people for advice, you know? What should I do? What are the next steps?

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Um, especially with my faith, you know, just… talking to God, and was like.

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Because you're always going to doubt yourself when you… when times get hard.

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At least I did. And I still do. Uh… But just checking in with him, and praying with him, you know.

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Am I on the right path? Am I doing this the right way?

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And he'll let you know. He truly will. You know?

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If you listen.

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If you listen, yeah. And then lastly, it's just… stay in the course. Persevere in through the down times, alright? That life's crucible.

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just keep one foot in front of the other. Keep moving forward.

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And… it's gonna come. It's gonna come. And with that, like I said, with that team, that… team that you've built.

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it'll… you're gonna make it… There you go.

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That is excellent. It's going to support you as much as I can, help you get out to more and more people, because…

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As we go through life,

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It seems every great story such as yours, such as many others,

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There's always a setback.

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Somewhere that kind of shapes

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the hero shapes those successes and…

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As you mentioned, getting drafted by the 49ers and then released.

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For a lot of people,

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That could have been a breaking point.

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Can you help us with some things that… maybe some lessons about…

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Mm-hmm, yeah.

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resilience. Maybe you could have…

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They've come out of that experience that you could share with us in…

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in helping.

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Yeah. Well, it was… it kind of started with an attitude.

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You know, uh… It was funny, when that happened, when I got released, and… I mean, it, like, just shattered my world. Like, it was the first time that… you've been told that you're not good enough.

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And it's like, what do you mean? So, just confidence shattered.

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And you feel like you've let everybody down. And… and so… Had a phone call with my agent who… during this whole process had become an extremely good friend, and… you know, very, very close, like, fam… pretty much family.

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And uh… he said, listen, he goes, this is… this is where I go to work.

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This is where I go to work. And… He goes, but you've got… you've got to want this.

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You have got to want this. And so, went on some workouts.

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wound up in signing with New York on the practice squad, and… it was there, it was, like, that attitude of… Okay.

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I'm here, I'm not going anywhere. now I've got to start working on myself.

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I've got to start turning it around of… I can't be negative anymore.

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Alright, I've got to look at the positives. I've got to be proactive, I've got to take charge, I gotta be the one that's gonna stay in… do the extra reps. I gotta be the one that's gonna show up early.

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And so it all starts with that attitude. That attitude of… you know, uh… I get to, I don't have to.

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Beautiful. Yeah.

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you know, and I've grown, you know, uh, more gratitude, less grumble.

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More gratitude, less grumble. I like that.

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You know, and… Yeah, and the one that mainly really helped me with that, I was talking about my agent, Ken, and stuff, but… The one that really kind of really showed me the more positive attitude.

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uh, way, and help me with that was my wife, or, you know, Katie. And… Uh, at the time, we were just… we were… actually, our relationship was fairly young. We had just started dating, and… You know, here she is, trying to help me in any way she can possible, and she sent me this book called The Secret.

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Yes. Uh-huh.

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by Rhonda Burns. Yes. That book changed my whole life. It was awesome. And, you know, and… I… I go back to that book, even now, when, you know, I started getting a bad attitude or something like that, I go look up.

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short stories from that book, and… and try to reset my brain to, alright, we gotta be positive, we gotta be positive, we gotta, you know, be proactive, look at… You know, how are we gonna, you know, help ourselves in this situation? So…

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That's true, and sometimes they make movies of that, of course, right? And of the book, and I think they've come out with 2 or 3 of them.

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But when I see them on TV still,

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Mm-hmm.

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I will watch them.

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It's… they're a good… they're a good lift, and…

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Then… yeah.

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And what we do, and…

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what I… what I kind of heard there a little bit, too, though, bears…

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Like you said, you grew up in California, you played…

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football in California, college in California, went to the San Francisco 49ers,

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And then boom, now you're in New York!

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Well, that probably wasn't on the dream process, like you were saying.

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And I think you mentioned a little bit of this earlier,

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Right.

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How is that as… wait a minute, I'm a California kid, but now I'm up north?

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Was that an impact?

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Yeah, it was… it was a struggle, you know, especially, you know.

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Yes.

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being a ranch kid, you know? being out in the country, being, you know, your nearest neighbors 3 miles away, you know? And now you're… in New York City, living in a hotel, an apartment complex, and you…

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you know, you look out the window, and you share, you know, sharing a… a building with, you know.

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Some other people, like. Yeah, and it's, you know, you're right on top of each other, so it was a… it was an adjustment for me.

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It really was, and… I didn't really like it at first.

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It really didn't like it at first, and, you know.

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people were a little rude and stuff, and it was a different type of people.

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different attitudes, and…

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then I would… than I was used to. Uh… attitudes, yeah, just standoffish, you know, I'm used to, you know.

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walking out and shake your hand and look, you know, what's your name? How are you? Good to meet you, you know?

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And now, it wasn't really a whole lot of that in the area.

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And, uh, so… I was kinda… wasn't really being very… you know, friendly as well. So, it was… But after a while, you know, and I had learned that my grandparent… my grandmother on my father's side had lived in New York for a number of years and tried to…

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act on Broadway and stuff, and really enjoyed it.

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So, I, uh, I was like, I'm gonna give it a whirl.

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I'm gonna give this city a try, and try to, you know.

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accept it, and learn about it, and go embrace the… You know, the life that it's… allows you to have. And so… it was… after I kind of… opened my mind to it a little bit more. It became one of the funnest places to live. And…

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Great.

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Thanks.

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You know, enjoyed doing… yeah, enjoyed going to restaurants and, you know, trying new food, and Broadway shows, and just all kinds of different… types of life. And, you know, got to know our next-door neighbors, and how kind and generous they were.

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It's… it's a learning experience, but…

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So…

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It's there once you start reaching out and…

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The more you do that, it's… it's amazing, and…

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The chemistry, the team chemistry that can come out.

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And while we're just touching on that briefly,

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Yeah.

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that all the difference in both your performance and your morale and the things that you're doing from

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California to New York.

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Do you have any insights you can share with us about

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you could take from your time with Eli Manning and the Giants, and…

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Building that genuine trust, and…

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And unity in those group settings?

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I think the big thing, and that's… what was so different from… the San Francisco team that year, and… going to New York and being a part of that team.

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Um, was New York was so… inviting, and almost, like, like, warm in the locker room.

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Uh, here I… here I am, a rookie, just been signed.

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don't know anybody from Adam. And day one at practice, I'm getting ready to go work out, and Chase Blackburn.

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middle linebacker, not even an offensive guy, defensive guy.

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comes out and goes, hey, congratulations, I heard we signed you, welcome to the New York Giants.

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That was never done in San Francisco. That action was never done in San Francisco. It was more of this idea of.

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who's this guy? Why did they draft him? what's he doing here?

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At the time, I don't know what it's like now. I'm just… I'm just speaking for what it was like.

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Right.

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at the time I was there. And I'm sure… it looks like it's totally changed now with the… with the players that San Fran has now.

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that are there. It looks like that team atmosphere is totally different.

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You know, but in 2009, it was a lot different.

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Uh, and… in New York, it was… opening, they… they brought… they brought you right in, you were part of the family. You know, once a giant, always a giant.

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No matter how long you're there. And I truly believe that's what helped us be successful in 2011 during that Super Bowl run year, was that team.

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was such a tight-knit group of guys. We'd spend… we'd go to practice, and practice all day.

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Yeah.

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And be around each other, and beat the heck out of each other on the field.

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And then we go home, and we'd all go out to dinner together.

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you know, a group of us would go and go have dinner together.

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That's excellent.

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We just truly enjoyed being around us, and it… it came down to not just wanting success for ourselves, but we wanted success for the guys next to us. We wanted… we wanted to… the success for the whole team.

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You know? So, and that's… that's it. I… one thing I tried to explain to… Excuse me.

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Our young high school team is, like. As coaches, we can tell you what to do.

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We can tell you how to do it. But it comes down to the guy next to you. Like, you guys gotta want it for yourselves.

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And it… the leadership… has to… we can… we can demonstrate it for you, and, you know.

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Um, but you've got to create that team atmosphere yourselves.

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And so… Uh… Yeah.

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I like what you're saying, because that's so true, that's what you will have to do. What we have to do, we can't wait on somebody else, right?

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Yeah. Sorry for the cough there.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, looking back at that, if you might just… we're getting close here, we've got about 12 more minutes.

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Mm-hmm.

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Looking back at where it all started, and what you were just talking about, you know, you had…

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the ranch, the NFL, the rodeo arenas,

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Mm-hmm.

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Can you kind of help us a little bit with what might stand out?

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Mm-hmm.

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As your greatest blessing from your… from your journey?

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Man. I've been… I've truly been blessed a lot. Been just blessed a lot with a lot of, uh, life experiences, and been able to travel the world.

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I've been from London to Kosovo to Germany and back, and… Southern America.

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Um, and just getting to… Being blessed enough to play.

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the sport I loved at a very high level.

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Um, allowed me to… a lot of things to come into my life.

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And… I truly believe, like, the main blessing. like you said, yeah, I said at the start of the show.

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won a Super Bowl, you know, now I'm in the rodeo arena, you know, getting to… you know, with the opportunity to win buckles and stuff like that, but… the true blessing in my life has…

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will be, you know, getting to. the lessons I learned from all that, and… and learn… give those to Zane.

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You know, I'll be able to… you know, show him… not even show him, but tell him how to… you know, whatever dream he wants to have.

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Beautiful.

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But show him how to create a plan. You know, plan to go attack it.

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teach him to solve problems, you know, so he can… whatever comes down the pike at him, he'll be able to handle.

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I'll… I can teach him how to persevere. And… and I'm mainly too… I can teach him how to fall in love with the process.

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You know, because a lot of things… a lot of this stuff doesn't happen overnight.

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It… you gotta… you gotta be… in love with the process, the… Not only the highs, but the lows as well. You gotta love all of it.

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And I hope one day, you know, that's… that's my plan, is to be able to.

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pass that on to him. That's… that's kind of the biggest blessing. All these life experiences, I get to pass them on to him.

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That is just so tremendous, and…

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I think with what you're saying, and bringing it out to others that…

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No.

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We can do that for our children, and…

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That positivity and the negativity,

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Mm-hmm.

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Because you've… as I see it, Barry, you… you're consistently modeling.

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Something bigger. Something bigger than just athletic success.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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But being a person, and being a parent,

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in that process in Bing.

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Nothing more masculine than being the parent.

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Yes.

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To a child. Nothing stronger, nothing…

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more beautiful in so many ways.

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Do you have any… as you speak, do you have any possible, maybe, phrases or principles?

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that maybe kind of captures?

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Your life philosophy, what you talk about?

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Um… The way I wouldn't… you know.

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One kind of, uh… I don't know if it's a philosophy, but a phrase that I… Express is… The difference between those who win and those that lose are winners.

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will not trade what they want most for what they want in the moment.

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Where somebody that loses more often than they win.

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They will trade what they want most. for what they want in the moment.

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They will stick with it.

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And what I mean by all that. Yeah, and… What I mean by all that, though, is… You take two different athletes.

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Alright? And they both want to go to the same spot. They want to both want to go to the NFL.

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And they get done with practice one day. and go into the locker room, and they shower, they go watch film.

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and go home, you know, it's time to go home. One has an opportunity, or they both have an opportunity.

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to go to the weight room and work out.

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But only one takes it. The other one goes home and sits on the couch and plays video games and stuff like that.

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You know, the one that took the opportunity to go to the weight room is… he's not… he's not gonna exchange what he wants most for what he wants in the moment.

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And, you know, he might really want to go home and rest and stuff.

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But he's gonna go to the weight room and get some extra work in, or he's gonna stay in that film room and watch a little extra film.

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So, I think that's the biggest thing, is not trading what you want most for what you want in the moment.

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And… and that kinda… plays into all three areas of my life, as far as faith, you know, family, you know, and the pursuit of excellence.

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It's like, you're not gonna trade… you're not gonna trade this god for this god, you know? It's… It's not how we're taught. You know, I'm… I was raised Catholic.

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Um, you know, I'm… you know, I feel like I'm not a very… religious person, but I'm a spiritual, you know, and… whereas, like, every hard… you know, low moment in my law… in my life, you know, whether it was high school, you know.

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having to move in the middle of, you know.

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Uh, before the school year started and stuff, or, you know, going in college, having to switch positions from quarterback to tight end.

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be… come to terms with that decision, you know, in the NFL.

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you know, having to find a job. my… God was the first one I turned to.

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Awesome.

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Show me the way. Show me that I'm doing the right thing.

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I'm making the right decision. You know, I'm gonna be okay.

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You know, yeah.

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Right, and you know you've got to have times where you've got to stop. I mean, there's times that, hey, the situation has gone on long enough,

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It's not going to work, you've got to do something different.

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There's got to be times where you say,

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And again, you…

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Yeah.

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Talk about the issues with yourself, and you share those.

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And you realize that at some point,

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You're doing all you can,

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And it's working or it's not working.

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You've got to make some decisions on where to go next.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And what to do. And I like that you're… like, even with your son, you're bringing him with you.

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And you're seeing him situ… he's seeing situations with you where things are going great, things are working.

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But also, there's times where…

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We need to make a difference. We need to make a chain, make an improvement.

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And how that goes, and what we do going forward, it's…

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Yeah.

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It's impressive what you do with your life and how you continue that.

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And that you're speaking to others.

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Yeah. Mm-hmm, and it's… it's that having a plan, you know? Having… having a plan of how to attack a goal, or attack a dream.

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And it doesn't matter what that plan is, as long as you have one.

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Alright, because that plan can change, and that's okay.

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like you said, there's those times you gotta stop, back up.

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Okay, that didn't work. Let's reroute and go do something different.

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But you gotta have that plan.

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We've been talking for quite a while. We've got about 4 more minutes, so…

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Oh, I'm so sorry.

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Hold on. And I put this on mute real quick.

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Oh, shoot, are you okay?

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Down the wrong pipe. Yeah. Yep, we're good.

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We can… all right, well, let me know, because I can… I go through things here, but…

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Because the encouragement that you…

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Let's… Let's keep going, cowboy.

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Good afternoon. The things that you bring forward that people need to hear…

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And again, especially our young… our teenagers, our young adults, and there was so much I didn't know.

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Yeah.

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When I first got to college, I was so naive.

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It was a whole new world for me.

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And knowing what I could do, couldn't do, should do, shouldn't do.

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And be able to build from there and go forward. I think what you bring

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to the young adults.

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is impressive, and young adults can be in their 30s. It doesn't mean just teenagers.

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A lot of us are learning.

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and building for an extended period of time, so…

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That is great. Well, before we wrap up,

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can we… can the audience learn a bit more about

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your work, your training programs, any upcoming events you might have,

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And what's next for Bear Pasco in your full-speed performance?

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No, so we're, uh, we're constantly, uh, training young athletes online, as far as strength training, strength and agility.

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getting them, trying to help them get bigger, stronger, faster.

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And so they can be… in better physical shape to go attack their dreams. You know, because… It doesn't matter what your dream is, and… You know, if you feel good, your body feels good, you're, you know, your mind will feel good.

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And so, helping those kids feel good about themselves, and… And, you know.

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Right, you said, and that feel-good, that's that confidence.

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move… keep moving forward in life.

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That's the belief, and it's true.

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Yes. Yes.

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they can do it. If you say, do those extra few reps, do those extra few repetitions,

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Give them that opportunity to work a little bit harder.

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Mm-hmm. Yes.

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Because they can achieve

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If they believe in themselves first, right?

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Very much. That's a great way to put it. Yes, very much so.

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So, still working on… always working on that. Uh, like I said, I'm getting to work here at Cal Poly Uni- uh, University here in San Luis Obispo, and worked with the young rodeo athletes here, and it's been absolutely amazing. I'm really enjoying that.

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Uh, and, uh, as far as speaking gigs, I am… looking forward to next February.

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Oh… speaking at a local conference here in Paso Robles, California, helping local, uh.

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local business leaders. better help their… their… their circles, and their communities.

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So, uh, that will be their next speaking, uh, opportunity.

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Let me know, I'd love to help you advertise. Go ahead.

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So, uh, preparing for that. Thank you, yeah, but no, just preparing for that.

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you know.

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That's excellent.

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That's excellent. Wow.

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And, uh, you know… putting one foot in front of the other, you know, uh… Yeah. Being a… being a dad to… being a husband for… to Katie, and a dad for Zane, so…

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What an incredible conversation with Bear Pascoe.

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A true example

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of humility, perseverance, and faith in action.

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Doesn't his story remind all of us?

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That success isn't just about winning championships.

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It's about character, consistency,

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and courage in the face.

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of adversity, and he saw it, as we all do.

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Bear, thank you so much. Thanks for sharing your heart.

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Your wisdom and your journey with us today. Your words remind us…

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That with determination, discipline,

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Belief in ourselves, and we just talked about.

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We can all achieve the greatness within us.

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in our own lives.

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Everyone listening, the road to success.

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is built one step.

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One choice, and one act of faith.

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At a time. Keep striving, keep believing,

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Believing, as always. Stay focused.

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Make life awesome.

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Remember, unity, just like the relentless resilience we talked about today.

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That country's strong excellence.

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They're all mindsets of value.

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And not just an ideal.

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They are success strategies for all of us.

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It's a daily choice to lead with empathy,

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Act with integrity, and uplift others along the way.

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A service we can give for free.

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As we gain so much more for ourselves.

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Bear, thank you again. If what Bear has told us today resonates with you,

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Go out to his website, www.bearpascoe.com, reach out to him.

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If you have comments, or…

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Anything you want to talk to me about? Go to Unity,successFormia.com.

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MarketTricken.com.

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Because with each inspiration,

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that Bear shared today.

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Ask questions.

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Be inspired by his influence.

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The recognition we all receive for Bear Pesco, his message.

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Contact bear, again.

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On LinkedIn, through his website, www.BearPasco.com.

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Reach out to him. Bear, any final words? Anything to…

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You want to say before we close?

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It's…

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Uh, just, just wanted to say thank you. Thank you very much for this time to… to spend with you, and to talk, and… you know, hopefully help somebody.

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You know, uh, decide to go… go after their dreams. And… and like you said, if, you know, if they want to… get in touch with me through my website or LinkedIn.

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Uh, I'd love to help them… you know, chase their dreams and succeed with it. And, you know, teach them how to.

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create a plan, solve problems, persevere. You know, uh, that's what it's all about.

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So true. Create that plan?

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Oh, my pleasure, Barry. I'm so glad to have you here.

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Oh, thank you very much for this time.

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How you reach out, but create that plan.

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exercise the plan. There will be changes.

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Changes are small, improvements are large.

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Should make those changes to build that improvement to carry you.

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Yep.

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Throughout your life. So, Mary, thank you again. Until next time.

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Let us continue to transform that chaos into connection.

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Thank you.

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Let us continue achieving unity.

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You can reach me at www.achievingunity.com. Call me, 303-FOCUS, 303.

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362-8733. We can stay focused on turning chaos into connection.

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As we achieve unity,

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By harnessing the power.

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The absolute power of encouraging,

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Inspiring and including others,

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In building better businesses,

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Better lives, and a better world.

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Life is what we make it, so let's make it awesome.

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Together, in unity.

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Thank you all. Thank you, Bear. Thank you again for your message.

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Helping others, your time,

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Your commitment? Hope to see all of you again next week.

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Till then, cheers.

Episode 58: Bear Pascoe

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Guest: Bear Pascoe

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