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Give me your best smile.
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Hello, and welcome back to another encouraging, inspiring, and including episode.
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of the Achieving Unity Success Formula Weekly Podcast.
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Where we help turn chaos…
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And to connection, and purpose, and to action.
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True action. I am your host, Mark Intraken, founder of the Achieving Unity Success Formula,
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Also known as the Unity.
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success formula. www.unitiesuccessFormula.com.
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Which is dedicated to improving lives by encouraging,
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Inspiring and including others.
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Today, I am honored to introduce a truly remarkable guest.
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Ronald Stein. A special guest who is dedicated
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to helping all of us become more informed,
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Empowered citizens when it comes to the very foundation of our modern lives.
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energy. We know how many of you are on a journey to improve your lives and the world around you,
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And understand how energy systems truly work.
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is a massive piece of that puzzle.
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Our guest, Ronald Stein, he is a professional engineer,
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And also an American engineer.
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As well as an author, speaker, and consultant who has become a leading
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fact-driven voice in promoting
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what he terms as energy literacy.
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He's here to help us move forward.
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Move beyond simple soundbites.
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And really understand the full scope of the energy that most of us pay for.
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Every time we sit down in our car, every time we turn on the heater or the air conditioner,
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When the power outlets in our homes to the materials that make up
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Most of our essential products.
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But first, before we delve into this insightful discussion,
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Let me briefly introduce my company.
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Reality-focused dynamics.
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Where it all began.
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As you see on the first slide, I have my gift to you.
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It's just a PDF.
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But it's something that talks about achieving unity.
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It talks about ending.
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The anger, or the disconnection,
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Or the frustration.
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or any of the processes of
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prejudice, or prejudgment.
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So, I hope you'll go look at the
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QR code on the bottom left, get a copy of our Unity Guide,
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Give me feedback. And to do that,
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You can just… we'll give you another email shortly, I'm sorry, URL shortly. It takes us right… that takes you directly.
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To sending messages to us.
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On the bottom right, you'll see the QR code for our Achieving Unity blog. I write articles, different things about achieving unity,
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about building bridges, about Agile, about business.
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So I hope you read those. Give me feedback.
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Let me know what you think, and let's talk about those more.
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If we go to the next slide…
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We talk about the Achieving Unity Success formula, and we are on… our weekly podcast number 61.
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Yes, we're here every Wednesday.
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But as long as we can, 1PM Pacific Time,
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4 p.m. Eastern Time. I'm glad you're here with us to be able to take advantage of this.
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But we've gone for over a year now. We hope to go longer.
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We have to adjust timeframes in the future.
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But we want to make sure that you're here with us.
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Achieving unity success formula, where we all can benefit.
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By helping each other.
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And encouraging, inspiring, and including
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everyone around us.
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As we see on our logo on this slide,
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It truly reflects the core
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what we do, and how we stand firm.
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Do you notice how focused is at the heart of our logo?
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That's because everything that we explore
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From reality-focused dynamics.
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To success-focused solutions,
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They all revolve around clear, intentional direction.
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No beaving around the bush. Let's get down to the answer. Let's create solutions.
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In fact, the concept of being focused
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is so core to us in achieving unity,
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And in creating solutions that is even reflected in our business phone number.
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303-362-8733, which spells 303 focused on your phone keypad.
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We believe that being truly focused
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Focused on what matters.
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We can create meaningful change,
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And achieve lasting unity.
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So if you look at our slide there, again, on the left,
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You'll see our QR code for our website home?
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Go to the first page of our website.
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On the right is that one I talked about earlier. That QR code will take you how to contact us.
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Questions, ideas,
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Thoughts on our blog? Please, give us feedback.
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We appreciate you.
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As we said, reality-focused dynamics,
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equals success-focused Solutions.
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What do we do? We show you proven
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Compassionate strategies that turn conflict into lasting harmony
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at home, at work,
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And in every relationship that matters.
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Personal relationships, professional relationships, and social.
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Are you ever frustrated by tension or arguments? My 7-Step Roadmap gives you the tools to move from conflict
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to collaboration. Quickly and confidently.
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Are you craving stronger trust and connection?
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We help you discover communication… communication tactics that build respect.
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Don't we all want respect?
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repair relationships through that respect.
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And unified teams and families alike.
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We help you transform that conflict
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into connection.
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Together, achieving unity.
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Unity inspires us in our homes,
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It shapes the society that we live in.
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And it transforms our workplaces.
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We help you turn that frustration
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Into understanding.
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Have you ever heard anybody say, what the
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frustration? Okay, they may not have said frustration there.
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What we do is we help you find the value.
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In your actions, instead of reacting,
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In that anger, or that…
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Frustration. We show that…
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Anger holds no value.
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No value at all. It is just actions not gaining effective results. Anger, A-N-G-E-R.
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Actions, not gaining effective results.
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Yes, life happens in every relationship.
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From personal to professional.
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From parenting time, to partnerships,
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In the boardroom, in the bedroom.
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In every room in between.
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What we do is we show you how to embrace those challenges,
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And encourage
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a more inspired and inclusive future.
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If you look at that EII acronym, you'll see it more if you go out to our blog.
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I have a 10-article series talking about EII.
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encouraging, inspiring, and including others.
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Again, love to have your feedback. Check out the site, read the articles, and get back to me.
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One vision, one goal.
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Achieving unity in every area of our life.
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So what is our call to action?
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Well, ditch the trauma.
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Let's get stuff done. Let's get beyond all that anger and that hate and that frustration.
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We'll show you how to turn your life from what may seem, at times,
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Like a dumpster fire, to a well-oiled machine.
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Wouldn't that be great at home?
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At work. Achieving unity is the path to stronger relationships.
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Inspired leadership, and lasting change.
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lifetime improvements.
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We do consulting, coaching, courses, and keynote speeches.
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Contact us today, www.achievingunity.com.
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Call us, 303-3628-733 or 303-FOCUS.
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Or catch that QR code down at the bottom of the screen.
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Let us know where you are. Let us know how we can help you.
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Our next podcast coming up, we have a whole month of them showing here, and we go through December.
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We'll probably do recorded ones on the week of Christmas and the week of New Year's.
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But we have it set up going into January.
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So, next week, on November 19th, Debbie Fennell comes and talks to us.
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Building lists the relationships.
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Who are your friends? Are you an entrepreneur?
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Who are your clients? Who are your customers?
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Who are the people that are important in your relationship?
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Come back next week, and Debbie Fennell will talk to us about that.
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On our next week, on 1126,
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We did have a change at the last minute. Someone had to…
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move her… the appointment, but I have another person coming, we'll have that updated next week.
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On December 3rd.
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Anita Sarda will come talk to us.
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What inspires you
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To lift others. What do you want others to help you do to lift you?
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That's what Anita's gonna come talk to us about.
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What inspires you to lift others in your process as I'm talking about?
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Encouraging, inspiring, and including others
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We'll see the parallel. How Anita and I work together in that process.
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So come see us, December 3rd.
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The week after that, Steve Rosman.
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Selling yourself.
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Personally and professionally.
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Are you shy? Are you outgoing?
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A little bit… afraid to step out.
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Steve will come in here and help us sell ourselves.
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Who we are, what we are, and what we can do for others.
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Selling yourself, personally and professionally?
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But talk to us. December 10th.
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Hope to see you every week.
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And today, a big honor. I am excited, I can't wait to… just to…
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Here, what Ronald has to talk to us about. I've got some great questions coming up.
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And I hope as you're listening, you'll think of some questions, and let us know.
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But Ronald, as I said, he is a professional engineer.
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He's an ambassador to the energy and infrastructure
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He's a co-author of…
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Pulitzer Prize-nominated book, Clean Energy?
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Clean energy exploitations, and a…
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policy advisor on energy literacy,
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For the Heartland Institute of the committee,
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For a constructive tomorrow.
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He is also a national TV commentator,
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On energy, and on infrastructure,
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With Rick Amato.
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An engineer, author, and speaker, Ronald is the founder of the PTS Advance, a California-based company and a passionate advocate for energy literacy.
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He emphasizes the critical distinction between renewables, like wind and solar,
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would generate intermittent electricity,
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and crude oil, which is essential for producing
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Over 6,000 products that sustain modern life.
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Through his publications and talks,
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Ronald encourages opened,
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Fact-based discussions about energy
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Energy realities and the role of fossil fuels
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in supporting economies and lifestyles,
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around the world.
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He is a colossar of three influential books.
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On energy literacy, clean energy exploitations?
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Just green electricity and energy made easy.
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His mission is to help citizens and policymakers alike.
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Understand the truth.
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Complexities of global energy,
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use and the importance of informed decision-making for the future.
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If you look at his URL down at the bottom right, energyliteracy.net, please go out to it.
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Look at it. Develop questions,
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Get back to Ronald. He wants to know what we want to know. So please help me welcome Mr. Ronald
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Stein. Ronald, thank you so much for being here.
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Mark, glad to be aboard.
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Uh, it's exciting to have you here. It's just so wonderful to be able to talk about energy that…
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We all think we know about it,
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We turn on our heating in the house, we turn on our air conditioning,
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We fill up our cars,
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Oh, before we plug into this topic,
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Maybe you can help us out. Would you introduce yourself a little bit?
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Introduce yourself to our listeners.
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Tell us who you are,
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What you actually do…
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And what got you passionate about helping people understand
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the real, the true story behind energy.
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Yes, I started my career working at Floor Corporation, which is a big.
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engineering construction company around the world. And, uh, basically designing and building refineries around the world.
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And after 20 years of doing that, I started a staffing company.
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To provide staffing to the refining sector. And, uh, after 30 years, we grew that to be one of the largest.
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staffing firms in that sector. And ironically, just a few months ago, we wound up selling it.
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But the last 5 years, my two sons and CEOs.
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I've been running the business, and I've been. focusing on authoring books on energy literacy, and I might.
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columnist on America Out Loud News. So my articles go out every Monday and get reposted around the world, and.
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Probably get exposed to half of them, maybe half a million people around the world.
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And they co-authored a lot of people around the world. It was Japan, India.
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Australia, you know, etc, etc, and Brazil. And… but let me… Give the folks just a real quick summary.
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Um, of energy. Just a few hundred years ago, before oil was really discovered.
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The world was unspoiled, dominated by Mother Nature. in the wild animal kingdom.
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There were fewer humans competing with the animals. Due to humanity's limited ability to survive.
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what Mother Nature provided. But before oil, life was hard, it was dirty.
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And many weather and diseases were. You know, related this from that.
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After oil. You have to understand, oil is black tar.
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It's almost useless, unless you can refine it and put… make it into usable products, so… After all, the products made from oil.
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Allowed us to create various modes of transportation. A medical industry, electronics, communications.
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Those products from oil reduced infant mortality. extended longevity from 40 years of age to.
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More than 80 today, and gave the public the ability.
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to move anywhere in the world via planes, trains, ships.
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and vehicles. And virtually limiting deaths. For most diseases, and from all forms of weather.
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This is all coming from oil that you're talking about.
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All that apparently… is the products from oil.
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It was interesting, I was interviewed on a. New York TV station once, and, uh, recently.
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And they mentioned, hey, Ron, we understand you're pro-oil.
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I said, Tomah, I'm not pro-oil, I'm pro the products.
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We get from oil. of products is what made us what we are today.
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And all of that apparent progress. is being blamed on the introduction of oil into society.
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After oil was discovered a few hundred years ago.
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The world populated from 1 to 8 billion people.
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200 years ago, the world had a billion people.
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And in less than 200 years, we went from 1 to 8 billion.
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And it wasn't because of oil, it was because of the products.
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We have a medical industry, you have a. airports and hospitals, it's, you know, it's a totally different world.
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Population growth. was not from the useless back tar, it was… it was from the products and the transportation tools.
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Made from oil. They continue to be demanded by humanity.
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The world has yet to come up with a clone or substitute.
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For that black tar. To maintain the supply chain of the products and the fuels.
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Now, Amanda, by the 8 billion people on this planet.
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Hospitals and the entire medical industry. And the health and well-being of billions on this planet.
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Will suffer from the transition to wind turbines and solar panels.
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is the so-called renewables. cannot support the supply chain of the thousands of products.
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demanded by doctors and hospitals. i.e, the more than 6,000 products.
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And transportation fuels that are made. with petrochemicals manufactured from.
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Crude oil. And… You know, today we have a totally different society.
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Wind and solar only generate electricity. We commonly hear wind and solar energy.
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As we replace fossil fuels. Mark, they do different things.
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And… and we're not putting it abound in any way.
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Wind and solar generates electricity. They make nothing.
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I mean, it's great to use them, right?
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Well, you know, when you… when you go into a hospital, when you go into an airport, go into an office, go.
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to a shopping center. Try to identify something. Something that you see.
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It was made from a wind turbine. I keep joking that.
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you know, electricity can charge my iPhone. But a wind permit cannot make my iPhone.
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So what you're saying is, all the products that you're showing when you have that phone up there,
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It's all made with…
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You're showing us that this
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Yes.
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Phone, and I've got a cover on it. The plastics and things like that. Those are all made from oil byproducts, right?
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Exactly, yes. And I'm 100% in favor of getting rid of oil.
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If we have a replacement, but we don't. And our leaders today.
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are enthusiastically supporting wind and solar to replace fossil fuels.
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But all the solutions they come up to replace fossil fuels.
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are made with oil. You have to understand that.
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Electricity came after. oil. Let me repeat that. Came after oil.
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Because all electrical generation methods, we got hydro, coal.
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Natural gas, nuclear, wind, solar. They're all built with the products.
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And the components and equipment that are made from the oil derivatives made from oil.
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have a… where…
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So when I look at a… sorry to interrupt you real quick, but… so when I look at one of those large windmills that I love seeing out there on the… on that windy field,
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A lot of the products that it took to make that windmill that's only generating electricity, like you said,
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were built from the oil byproducts.
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That's… that's… that's how that windmill got there.
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Exactly. All the… Right, right.
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And, you know, they all need wire, insulation, computers.
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And that's all made from oil. Without crude oil, there can be no electricity.
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In addition, everything that needs electricity. or quote my iPhone.
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Right?
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It was also made from the oil derivatives manufactured from Loyola.
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The TV, the defibrillators in the hospital. You know, without crude oil, there will be nothing that needs electricity.
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Electricity, as I mentioned, can charge my iPhone, but near the wind.
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turbines with solar panels can make. an iPhone. I'll repeat it, I'm all in favor of ridding the world of crude oil usage, but.
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We've yet to identify a clone. to replace oil that will support the materialistic needs.
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Of the 6,000 products and transportation fuels. That have allowed the world to populate from 1 to 8 billion.
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If we get rid of oil, we're back to the 1800s.
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And again, once we have those products, because I'm still working on the…
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benefits are reducing the use of oil
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Which is where we're coming up with our wind turbines and waterfalls, and…
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anything that we use in that nature,
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It's to reduce the use, but like you're saying, that's what I'm hearing you say, the energy literacy.
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To learn more about energy, and that…
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As you're saying…
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Reducing that use of oil is great,
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But we still must… it's still required. We still must have it.
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Too many of the products that we use on a day-to-day basis, like the following that you picked up.
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It's a perfect example. The laptop that I'm using right now to put this together.
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The parts in the camera, the parts for my light.
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They're all made of oil byproduct, right?
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Exactly. And we just take it as granted, but the confusion, I guess, in society is you keep talking about.
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Wind and solar energy. I… I'm very cautious when using the word energy. I always refer to wind and solar electricity.
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Because that's all they can do. They can make absolutely nothing for society.
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And… and then you talk about wind and solar.
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It's under favorable conditions. And the only reason Wind & Soul even exists is because it's mandated by.
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And that… sorry to interrupt you again, but I want to make sure that people understand
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government. It's subsidized by government. There have been no wind…
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When it's subsidized by government, where's government getting this money?
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You and I are paying for it. That's right.
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our tax dollars. I just want to make sure to emphasize that when people talk. Well, the government will pay for it. Well, where's the government getting this money?
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It's coming from us. Sorry to interrupt you there, but I always wanted to toss that in when people talk about
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Right.
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government pays for things. But anyway, yes, we… they'd subsidize it with our tax dollar, right?
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Right. Because there's… there's almost… close to 100,000 wind turbines in the world today.
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Zero. I'll repeat that. 0. have been funded with private money.
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Wow.
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It's all subsidized money. And, again.
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They only generate electricity. And they have a limited lifespan of, you know, 20 to 30 years.
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You know, you take the EV. Um, the UV. It's 100% made with oil.
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The terrors, the wars, the insulation, the computers. All the electronics.
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It's… it's 100% made with. Wow. And when you talk about the battery.
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That's the reason I wrote that book, Clean Energy Exploitations.
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Because it's available on Amazon. I mean, energy exploitations.
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It documents the fact that. To go to EV batteries, you need a lot of lithium and cobalt and a lot of other exotic minerals and metals.
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And it's all being mined in developing countries. And where they have no labor laws.
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I have no environmental laws, so we're exploiting people who have yellow, brown, and black skin.
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to mine for this lithium cobalt. And environmental degradation on those developing countries is atrocious.
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Okay, yours is what I'm hearing you say.
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But that's okay, that's okay, we're… it's okay, we're going green.
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But what I just heard, I think you're talking about literacy, and I love this.
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What you're saying is to mine some of these chemicals that you're talking about,
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is dangerous.
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Is that what I just heard?
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Oh, yes, yes. In fact, we were very selective. The photo we used for the cover of the book.
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It was a photograph in Africa. with a military guy holding a newsy.
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Overseeing a family, digging for the stuff by hand. We're talking 6-year-old kids.
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mining for this stuff. And… When people ask me if I would buy an EV, I say, no.
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And they say, why? I said, it's for ethical and moral reasons.
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They say, what do you mean by that? You know? And I said… and I basically talk about the book, Clean Energy Exploitations, because.
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I am… I'm not willing to financially encourage China and Africa.
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Continue exploiting your people who have yellow, brown, and black skin.
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Continue the environmental degradation on your land. To get the materials for that battery.
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On the contrary. our government is. Our government is subsidizing.
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you to buy an EV. So they're providing financial.
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incentives for China and Africa. Continue the exploiting of people of yellow, brown, and black skin.
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Continue the environmental degradation on your land. We're going green!
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Wow, so the…
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Oh, I see your point, Jenny.
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I think it's unethical and immoral. But… That's my personal opinion.
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And I appreciate what you're saying, because there's so much…
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And I don't mean just run it into the ground, but energy literacy. That literacy, that's what we do
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In achieving unity is education.
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Making people more knowledgeable,
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I'm gonna get off the subject for just a second, but I'll come back. It's because…
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Some people that are homeless, some people that are having problems in this world, is because they don't know.
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They don't know any better. They don't know what they can do.
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Sure, a lot of people have been told that they could do more.
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But it's… it's not in their beliefs.
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Right.
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They don't understand that. So what we want to do is to be able to educate more, and that's what I see what you're doing, Ronald, is…
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Yes, we have oil out there.
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And… it is an ugly black liquid, but what does that ugly black liquid
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do for us, and I liked also what you just said about wind and solar.
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It's not producing energy,
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It's only producing electricity. And how many people know that?
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Uh, not too many. That's the reason that I'm so prolific about my articles and.
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Co-authoring with people around the world. The interesting thing about.
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oil is… everybody is blaming oil for climate change, etc, etc.
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And, you know, you don't have to over-regulate or mandate.
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Stopping use of oil. Just stop using it. Well.
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The way to stop music is like a restaurant. If a restaurant's serving.
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Bad food, people stop going to it, it eventually goes out of business.
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Well, if you stop using the products. There's no need for the black tar.
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But… which governor is going to come out and say, we're going to close the hospitals.
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Can't drive.
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We're going to close the airports, we're going to close the shopping centers. I mean, you stop using the products.
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There's no need for oil. Those refineries, like you say, they're only producing fuel.
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for merchant ships and planes, there's 50,000 merchant ships that exist today that didn't exist 200 years ago.
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Well, one of the things…
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Go ahead.
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20,000… Yeah, you know, commercial planes, 50,000 military aircraft.
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These didn't exist 200 years ago. And it's only because of the products.
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Well, one of the…
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One of the things that I see in…
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I… agree with you that too many times, and that's where I go off the 80-20 rule, the Pareto Principle of the 80-20,
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But I take it to 20-60-20.
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Everything we do, from politics to education,
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to just social. There's 20% of extreme one way, and there's 20% extreme the other way. And I'm not just talking about left and right politics, I'm talking everything that we do.
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And some of the things that we're doing as far as how we create the products from oil,
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And the smoke that goes in the air. There are better ways to
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do what we're doing, and we're learning from it.
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So I don't want to take away from that that we're not improving the way,
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that we create the chemicals in the process and the compounds.
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that we use from oil,
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And I don't think you're doing that either. There's a better way to do it
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Great.
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But… stop blaming the oil for everything.
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Because people don't understand, as I hope we mentioned several more times,
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How many products that we use on a day-to-day basis
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The simple mouse in my hand.
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The products are used from this.
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Better oil-based products.
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Right.
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So what do we do?
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We have to focus on efficiencies and conservation. Because it's not going to be there forever.
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you know, the world's been around for 4 billion years. It's a 4 billion euro planet.
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And there's a lot of talk of how much oil reserves are there, you know.
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And improve reserves keep changing because of technology. Fracking.
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We're able to find more oil. Do we have 100 years left? Are you consuming, like, 100 million barrels a year?
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And that well's gonna run dry at some point in time.
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Is it 100 years? Is it 500 years? So, 5,000 years, it's not being replenished.
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Not the way we're throwing it out of the earth.
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And… Mark, I will guarantee you this. this 4 billion euro plane is going to be here with or without us.
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Good point.
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So… And so, at some point in time.
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With about us talking on our cell phone.
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That's right. At some point in time, it is going to run dry, and.
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If it runs dry, then we're going back to the 1800s, when they used no oil.
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That's right.
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But again, life was hard, and we competed with the animal kingdom.
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It's in a much different world.
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It was… it was a different world. And, you know, I live here in California.
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And Governor Newsom, he has me working overtime. Every time he opens his mouth, I've read another article.
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Governor Newsom, he's got no answers how to run an economy without crude oil.
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Gavin Newsom is constantly attacked the supply and the manufacturing crude oil.
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It's the basis of every product that's demanded by society.
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Newsom remains oblivious to economies and demands. for a supply chain of products and transportation tools.
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Currently derived from those fossil fuels. He seems unaware that so-called renewables, like wind and solar.
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cannot make anything. Cannot make fuels, cannot make products.
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And they only generate electricity under favorable weather conditions.
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You know, not to mention the many. uses of drugs and medicines many of us take to keep us alive and healthy.
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It's all made from oil derivatives. More importantly, the greatest threat to humanity.
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is running out of crude oil before we have an alternative to meat.
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the supply chain of everything that we see in our daily lives.
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That's the challenge we have today. And when I talk to people, I try and not use the word energy. I think you talk about electricity.
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Products or fuels? It's kind of lumped into energy.
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But… no, uh, when they keep talking about wind and solar, you're not talking about electricity.
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But they're not going to be able to support the supply chain.
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They're not going to be able to support airports staying open.
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Hospital staying open. And so, yeah, the longevity of life is directly related to all those products.
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And that's one of the things that we want to do, is to maintain
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in…
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And I like renewable energies.
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I think they're great, but the question comes out,
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is how much are we saving?
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How much oil are we…
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Using to make these products…
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that are required
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to have that.
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solar system on our house, or that windmill out on that
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beautiful, windy field.
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How much are we saving?
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Putting that together, by generating electricity that we don't need.
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to come from oil.
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I think what you're going to see, and it's developing around the world, probably more of a use of nuclear.
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Because nuclear has a smaller footprint, um. It generates continuous uninterruptible electricity, which wind and solar cannot do.
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It has a much smaller footprint. It uses the least amount of materials.
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And it'll… it'll run almost forever. Take the Navy. I mean, Navy has a 70-year track record.
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all the submarines, all the aircraft carriers. are nuclear powered.
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70 years nuclear power.
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Have you ever seen… Yeah, have you ever seen a, um… aircraft carrier? You know, that is big as an airport.
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Floating on water. That's huge! Hells hold, like, 4,000, you know.
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sailors and all the aircraft. And yeah, they've been doing this for 70 years.
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Wow.
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With zero fatalities.
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Again, that literacy. How many people know that? How many people know how much
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And so, yeah.
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nuclear power they're using.
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We don't even think about, and not oil.
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And that big fact that you just gave, 70 years,
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Without one single fatality, right?
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Right. Strong volume reactors are probably going to be the thing, especially for developing countries, because.
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I'll either take a small footprint, and everybody needs electricity, because everybody wants water sanitation.
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And, uh, yeah, every… everything is based on electricity, and what quicker way to do it than have a.
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A small module reactor serve 100,000 people. The Army's looking at it to, uh, for their remote sites.
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And… yeah, it's, you know. For the ways to generate electricity.
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Obviously, coal, it's abundant, but it's a polluter. Natural gas, it's abundant, less polluting.
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But nuclear, you're going to see a lot more of that.
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And ironically. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
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It's ironic. Before the Nuclear Regulatory Commission was formed.
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I think we, uh, we built, like, 50 nuclear power plants around the country.
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And the Nuclear Regulatory Commission was formed, I think.
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45 years ago, something like that. And uh… and all that time.
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We built none. They're going to approve 2.
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For permits. But, uh, yeah, the… They're basically a roadblock. So you're seeing nuclear developed in, uh.
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China and Russia. South Africa.
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Yeah, we're… we're gonna be losing our nuclear. Leadership around the world, um… Except for the Navy. But yeah, the nuclear technology is gonna… it's… It's going to be happening in Russia and.
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China right now have the two operating small modular reactors.
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And so, yeah, we just have to get the, uh, United States to.
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join the nuclear revolution. That's going on.
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And… that's right, and that's…
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And again, that's money for electricity. That's… that's not replacing fossil fuels.
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I joke that… I live here in California. So, the best thing about getting rid of oil?
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As Governor Newsom won't have any grease to comb his hair.
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Which is my dad of all product, byproducts.
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Oh, that's bad, Ronald.
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Well, again, what we're saying now, let me just kind of clarify.
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What you just said.
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Nuclear energy also?
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Only creates.
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Little electricity, okay. There you go, thank you!
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Nuclear electricity. Nuclear electricity.
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Nuclear electricity, because that's all it's doing.
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is creating electricity.
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This right here is so…
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Exactly.
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Profound, Lonel. I didn't know this. I was…
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I'm a STEM kind of person, I love science.
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I didn't know that. I never thought about it that way.
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So what you're telling me is all three of those…
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Go ahead, please.
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Well, the demand… The demand for electricity is increasing.
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The world's still populating. artificial intelligence.
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data centers, the amount of electricity is going to be humongous.
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And the tough part about trying to do it with wind and solar.
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She can't do it in the metropolis. You have to do it.
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out in the open field. Whereas nuclear, you can put that right in the center of the population.
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Because when you have a wind turbine. out in the boondocks.
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Well, you've got to get a transmission line to bring it back to where the people are.
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That's right.
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And so, you know, you're just adding more and more cost, and.
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You need more and more products to do that.
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And what's…
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You know… Like I say, everything… Good.
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So what's the feasibility of putting a…
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Windmill farm on top of the buildings in downtown Chicago.
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Exactly.
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They're huge. Right.
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Uh, you can't, because the turbine blades are almost… Because an airport by itself, you know, huge.
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That was just joking about Chicago been the windy city?
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And as you mentioned, and as I've mentioned, they're out in the big field, but as you also mentioned,
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The transmission lines, because as we see the wind farms,
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they're way out there, so what's it costing?
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to transmit that energy, that electricity,
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from the farm,
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into the city where it's usable, or to another battery where it can be stored.
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Until it's used, right?
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We… I live here in California. California's a very temperate climate.
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And I think we have… Like, 20% of all the EVs in the entire country are here in California.
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Because if you live in a hot climate. And you want to use your… car during the day, you need to run your air conditioner.
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Omar, the air conditioner runs off the battery. If you live in North Dakota in the winter and you want to use it in the winter.
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You want to heat the car, mark the heater runs off the battery.
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So, your mileage gets reduced, and if you run out of electricity.
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In North Dakota, we're out in the desert, where it's 120 degrees.
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Um, yeah. You're in bad shape.
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And I look at that from another perspective, is you're getting… you're bringing us
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A new bridge of understanding literacy.
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about electricity, because just think when Katrina hit. I'm down south right now, I'm in southern Mississippi, not far from Bay St. Louis, which was the eye.
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Oh, Katrina.
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It's… the thought that when Katrina came through,
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How many homes were without electricity?
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For an extended period of time.
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So they had no heating, they had no cooling, which is important down here in the South.
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They had nothing to work with.
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Yes. My passion with all my articles and books is to stimulate.
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Conversations. Because, you know, like Governor Newsom wants me to jump out of an airplane without a parachute.
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No. By the way, the parachute's made of fossil fuels.
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You know, what's the backup plan? As I mentioned on the New York TV interview, I'm 100% in favor of getting rid of oil.
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But we've had 200 years to come up with a replacement, and been unable to do it.
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And wind and solar is not wind and solar energy, it's wind and solar electricity.
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That right there, I just… you have helped everybody that listens to this so much.
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And we want to help get this out more.
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Cogniz, wind, solar, and nuclear.
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Electricity. That's not…
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energy…
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Right. Whole natural gas… You know, hydro… you know, hydro is fine. I mean, that's… That's great if you have a… You know, a location where you could put a dam and put in the.
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Nice waterfall, or…
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They're pretty.
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Yeah, but again, it's only generating electricity. But electricity is needed for a lot of the things we do.
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But, you know, the most efficient and. The Navy found us out 7 years ago.
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You know, when I fly. Take a look at the airplane, take a step back, and you look at the size of that plane, man, you want to get this off the ground?
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Or you're going on vacation, take a cruise. Take a step back, look at the size of that ship.
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So, you want this thing to move? But, you know, right now, we got… there's 50,000 merchant ships in the world.
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They're moving products from country to country, and. Um… yeah, they didn't exist.
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200 years ago. 200 years ago, they were sailboats.
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You can't put wind farms on those cruise ships, either.
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Remove the service. Uh, be tough.
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You brought up a lot of great points here, Ronald, that, again, as I talk about education,
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And it's all coming together in unity,
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We don't know. We haven't been taught, we haven't been told.
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And just these small points.
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That you're bringing up is opening a whole set
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Of doors for us that…
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That's amazing, just a…
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The fact that, from coal, as you're mentioning,
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It creates electricity.
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I mean, but the byproduct, not talk about that right now.
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But they produce electricity, the wind, the solar.
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Right.
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The nuclear.
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That's all it's doing.
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We call it energy, call it nuclear energy, but it's not.
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Now, from what you're telling us today, right?
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It just helps us charge our cell phone.
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Right, just electricity. Right.
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And lights, those are the things, just being fun with a cell phone, but…
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So everything that we…
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work from that process.
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That word, energy, as I mentioned at the first of this podcast.
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How important energy is.
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But if we're talking about
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Again, from the EV cars, and…
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what we're putting together
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It's a lot more of the fossil fuels that are required
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To build those,
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And then the electricity that's generated from just those
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few other sources. Am I catching this right?
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You're catching it right, yes. You know, the… everything that we've come up with… Um, the green movement.
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Every solution they've come up with requires oil. to make wind turbines, solar panels.
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UB cars, it all requires oil. So, if you're successful in getting rid of oil.
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Retail vehicles. There'll be no hospitals.
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We gotta find another way to make cars.
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We've got to find another way in those hospitals.
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To make all of the equipment that we use,
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keeping our heart beating.
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We're having a heart attack, and you see the window? I don't remember the electrode…
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You deserve to get us back to life.
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That's all…
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Well, also, we'll… For electricity, you want continuous, uninterruptible electricity.
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That's what nuclear gives you, that's what natural gas gives you, that's what coal gives you, the generating plants.
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Because wind and solar is intermittent. And, you know, if you're gonna… If you're a doctor, you don't want to check the weather report before you go into an operating room.
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You know, I don't want them to be in an operating room that's running off a unit that's… don't know if it's going to be working, but about halfway through my surgery, either.
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Oops, sorry about electricity.
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As the wind stops blowing!
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Wow, what a new concept what this is bringing up.
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Well, I… Yeah, it's not a new concept, it's just that people have.
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They just misuse the word energy. It's all inclusive.
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And when you talk about energy, talk about electricity or talk about products and fuels.
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Electricity products and fuels, those are the three things that, quote.
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consume the word energy. But wind and solar do something totally different than crude oil.
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And, you know, take a situation where. um, Ukraine and Russia. They're at war.
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And I wrote an article, says, you know, yes, Virginia.
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You know, the small guy can attack the big guy.
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And Ukraine is doing that. They're sending drones. into Russia's refineries.
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knocking out the fuel supply, so the military's hurting.
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The Russian economy is hurting. And we're very, very vulnerable.
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Very vulnerable. We had a situation where Chevron. Uh, one of the units here in Southern California caught fire.
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And they had to shut it down. Well, Chevron provides.
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20% of the fuel to… LAX, Los Angeles International Airport.
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And, you know. With the drone technology.
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All of our infrastructure is really, really, you know.
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Exposed because. You can knock out a refinery.
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Knock out the fuel supply to the airports. And, you know, the government shutdown has been causing a lot of planes to be canceled.
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Well, you eliminate the fuel, there'll be a lot of planes being canceled, too.
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There's no doubt about it, that's…
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almost… I'm even a little bit overwhelmed, because I never thought about it that way, and this…
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Sometimes…
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And you've got…
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tremendous education, you achieve with being the professional engineer, the background that you have,
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And there's something that you have shared with us today
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that is actually so simple.
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Just the fact that that solar electricity…
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That's not solar energy.
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That's not…
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But the wind turbines, that's just wind… wind electricity.
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nuclear.
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Right. With… We are… we are a materialistic society.
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And we basically take the 6,000 products. For granted, from… grief for the hair, the toothpaste, lipstick, you know.
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On and on and on, it's… It's all just accepted.
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It is normal, but… Wind and solar can't support it.
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Well, just since we've started this call, I'm…
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As I look and just kind of glance,
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at my desk, at my home office right here.
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And just see how many things that are just theoretically…
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From my monitors, to my laptop, to my camera, to my keyboard, I mentioned my mouse a few minutes ago.
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So, as we talked before about the phone, just looking at all of the contraptions I have,
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for all of the USB connectors I have set up here.
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Uh, the earpieces that I have for the phones,
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Everything here.
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almost everything here is made out of a byproduct, a byproduct of oil.
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I wouldn't… I wouldn't be able to do this today.
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Great. Yeah. 100% correct.
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We wouldn't be able to talk.
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If we, you know… Without oil, we're back to the 1800s.
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And life longevity is short, and. You know, sailboats, there was no planes.
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Horseback riding to go from point A to point B.
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Um, yeah, I mean, everything, motorcycles. Skateboards… surfboards.
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It's all made with oil products.
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And as you say, you live in California, and you want to fly to Florida, and they say, well, we're going to take off at noon, and if we have enough wind from the turbines, that we'll be flying over, we'll be able to make it to Florida, but if not, we've got to just land somewhere in Kansas.
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I mean, that's just a concept that…
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If I… if I had to fly an electric plant, I wouldn't make a reservation.
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No.
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Not at all, but it's a…
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And as we talk about the people,
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Behind the process, and…
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The way that the miners and the builders and manufacturers,
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How does being energy literate also mean being more compassionate?
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:09.000
And I think, as you mentioned earlier, globally aware, around the world.
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Well, Mark, you're 100% correct, because just because we have it, uh, we don't want to use it.
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Inappropriately. Uh, we have to focus on continued improvement on efficiencies and conservation.
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Because we were run out of it from point in time.
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In our lifetime? No. It'll be there for us.
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Probably for our grandkids, but for their kids, I… Don't know, and… You know, taking it for granted that… You know, like I say, this is a 4 billion year old planet.
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You know, we're just part of the solar system.
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And yeah, there's a lot of coal, a lot of natural gas, and… There's limited amounts of lithium and cobalt, et cetera, et cetera.
00:51:53.000 --> 00:52:00.000
But being a materialistic society, we've got to come up with a substitute. If we don't come up with a substitute.
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We're going back to the 1800s. We'll be competing with the… The animal life, um… Yeah, it's gonna be a tough, tough world, be a tough transition.
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Well, I think…
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And as… as the supply gets. Reduced, uh, it's going to be more and more costly.
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Because right now, I think the United States has.
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185 refineries? That's all. For 350 million people.
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And those refiners, they're not needed. If you don't use the products.
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But if you need the products, you know, you need… Refineries, and if you need refineries, then you need to.
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Explore for oil, because that's the fuel for the refineries.
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that oil, they don't need the refineries.
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Californians in that situation. We have two refineries that are closing, a lot of it because of the.
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all the over-regulation. They're a business. And, uh, they can operate businesses in other states more profitably.
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Than here, so we have 2 closing, which is.
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Eliminating about 20% of our. Uh, supply of fuel.
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And, you know, the scary thing, Mark, is California's an energy island.
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We're separated from the rest of the country by the Sierra mount.
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There's no pipelines over those mountains. So all the fuel consumed in California.
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We have 9 international airports, we've got 41 military airports.
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All that fuel is made in California. Now we're losing 20% of it.
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So where's it going to come from? The sad news is, it's going to come from… China.
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China has 8 new refineries coming online by 2030, just a couple years away.
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And it's really scary to think that China's going to be providing the fuel.
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run our international airports in California. and 41 military airports we have in California.
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when I look at it,
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That's a huge national security risk. Excuse me.
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That's a national security risk.
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But as I think about that, as we talk about the taxes,
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that they're putting on, and how Trump is…
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Raising taxes for any kind of product
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But outside the United States,
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what are we going to do? If China is, from what I'm hearing from you,
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If they have the refineries and they have the ability to build the products,
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Where else are we going to be able to purchase them from?
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Because we can't build them here, if we don't have the refineries, right? Is that what I heard you say?
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So, as we're saying,
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That's exactly right. Yep. We have to be… We have to be self-sufficient, and… We're basically putting all the eggs in a basket that wind and solar is going to replace all that stuff.
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That is…
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But it's not, it's only generating electricity. A wind turbine's not going to keep… not going to keep being LAX open.
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Not at all. That's…
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Not going to keep all the hospitals open. Might keep… might keep the lights on.
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Well, they can't make the lights. You can't make the defibrillators.
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When that light bulb burns out, what do you do?
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And it's going to sooner or later, right?
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Exactly, yeah, so… Yes.
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All right.
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And…
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We've got about 5 more minutes. This went very fast. This information…
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to me is astounding.
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And without a doubt, I'm going to send this out to a lot of people, hope others will also.
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So yes, please.
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Let's hear it.
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Are you ready for the quiz? I'm ready for the… So, when you have conversations, like I say, talk about.
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Electricity, products, and fuels. Eliminate the word energy. I mean, that's… those are the 3 basic things we need.
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Electricity, products, and fuels. Electricity comes from, you know, 6 ways to generate electricity.
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But the products and fuels… Got one source.
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Fossil fuels.
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Wow. Well, tell me, as we're closing down, we're getting to the end of this, finally, Ronald?
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If you could leave our listeners
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With one spark of wisdom about life, about leadership, about learning,
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these situations, and…
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This literacy we're talking about energy literacy we're talking about today.
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What would that be?
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Conversations. I've talked to your professors, talked to your students, talked to your friends, your neighbors.
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Um, and talk about just 3 things. The world is materialistic and.
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We need 3 things. We need electricity. We need the products to run our society.
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We need the fuels to operate all of our transportation systems.
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Talk about those 3 things. Don't use the word energy, talk about electricity.
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Products and fuels. How do we… Maintain all of that.
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To support us, our grandchildren, their grandchildren. Uh, in perpetuity. It's going to be a real challenge.
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That is amazing. Wow.
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What an incredible, insightful, and eye-opening conversation with Ronald Stein today.
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In achieving unity Success Formula Podcast.
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It is about achieving unity, and that achieving unity is us being educated.
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That literacy that he talks about.
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We can't thank him enough for breaking down such a complex…
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Vital topic into clear, understandable concepts that are so relevant to all of us.
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As we are striving ourselves,
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For personal and collective improvement.
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Ronald's dedication to energy literacy
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Making sure all citizens, all of us, you and I,
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Understand that full story.
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I'll put energies compared to electricities,
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role is in our infrastructure.
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In manufacturing, in our daily lives.
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It's a profound service.
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And we truly appreciate his fact-based
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Energy Agnostic approach. Again, I said this a couple of times.
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In fact, base. He's given us so much to think about.
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Now, the differences between electricity generation,
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Material feedstocks,
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The realities of supply change
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and policy definitions.
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governors of the governor of California!
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the decisions that he makes.
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As well as others. I don't want to just pick on him. That governor. But if we can bring that balance into our daily lives and organizations,
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Then we can truly begin to live the heart of what achieving unity success formula stands for.
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Where success is not just about what we accomplish.
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how we grow and achieve together.
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And thanks to people like Ronald, and what we do.
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For all of us, if today's discussion…
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ignited even a small spark in you.
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Please make sure to check out Ronald's excellent books.
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Including Energy Made Easy,
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just green energy,
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And clean energy exploitations.
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His work is a powerful tool.
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To equip you to be more engaged and informed in the ongoing dialogue and our
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Energy. Future.
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It's huge, is what Ronald's talking about today.
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Ronald, on behalf of the entire Achievement Unity Success Formula, the AUSF community,
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Thank you so much.
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You're sharing your time.
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Your wisdom, your passion.
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Mark? My pleasure.
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I… you've truly helped take a giant leap.
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My pleasure.
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forward in our own journey of growth and understanding.
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We… any last words? Any other last things you want to talk about before we close?
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Just have conversations.
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Have conversations. Communication is key.
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Communication and collaboration are the keys that unlock our doors to success.
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So what Ronald's saying, talk about it.
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But when you say energy,
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Make sure and confirm you're not talking about electricity.
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Well, we wish you the best. I look forward to your continued
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impactful work as you, I think, also.
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Turn that unity, that education,
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And to work for everyone.
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So remember, true energy literacy…
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is the foundation for achieving economic
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And material unity for, like he said, all 8 billion of us.
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And it's a mindset of value.
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It's not just an ideal.
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It's knowing all sides to every concept.
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like energy literacy.
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Unity. Success strategies.
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They are a daily choice to lead with empathy,
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Act with integrity and uplift others along the way.
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And that's a service that we can share with others for free.
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As we gain as much for ourselves as we do for others,
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Again, Ronald, thank you so much for bringing this to my attention today.
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I thought I was smart till a few minutes ago.
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I've learned a lot about it.
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So, if what we share today
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is impactful, again.
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Ronald on the internet. Make sure to find out
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what he's doing. Go to energyliteracy.net, look him up on LinkedIn,
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Look for us. Come back and talk to us. The UnitySuccessFormia.com.
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MarkIntricken.com.
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we're out there. Come talk to us, get back with Ronald and find out more.
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And by his book.
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Buy his books. If you know someone who's talking about energy,
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Or electricity? Get back to Aravel.
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Well, thank you so much for being here. This has been insightful.
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Thank you, Mark.
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Until next time, let us continue to transform our chaos which we heard a lot about today. That chaos that we have with
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Energy and electricity,
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And turned it into connection.
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And connect back to Ronald, but let us continue achieving unity.
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www.achievingunity.com.
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Call us 303-FOCUS, 303-3628-733.
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Which I'll hope you'll always remember.
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We can stay focused, turning that chaos
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Interconnection as we achieve unity by harnessing the power
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The power and the strength of encouraging.
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Inspiring and including others.
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And building better businesses,
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Better lives and a better world.
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Life is truly what we make it.
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So let's make it awesome together.
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in unity. Thank you again, Ronald. Thank you. Thank you all for listening, everyone.
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Well, let's work together going forward.
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How to be part of the message.
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that you take the Lord.
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Great. Have a great day. Okay.
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Now, for your message of helping others, your time, and your commitment. Hope to see you all again next week.
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Cheers.
